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Black Tidings + Hellfire Empowerment range boost
« on: August 01, 2014, 10:53:13 PM »
This came up:

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Distances
[Close] range reaches up to 25 ft + 5 ft per 2 levels (up to 75 ft at level 20).
[Medium] range reaches up to 100 ft + 10 ft per level (up to 300 ft at level 20).
[Long] range reaches up to 400 ft + 40 ft per level (up to 1200 ft at level 20).

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Lich – Hellfire Empowerment: Spells, spell-like abilities, and supernatural abilities you possess that have one or more targets within a range category may be used as if the range category within which you can choose your target(s) is one range category higher, to a maximum of [Extreme] range.

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Black Tidings
-The Dread Wave manifests as a wedge with a length of 20 ft + 10 ft per circle of Arcane Lore
--Hammerfall deals 1d6 energy damage with the [Fire] descriptor or physical damage, chosen each time you activate Hammerfall, per character level you possess to each creature in a target square within 100 ft plus 15 ft per character level

So DW maxes at 90 ft [Not-Short] and HF at 400ft [Long].
If Hellfire Empowerment increase the area it would be a powerful combo (not to mention Undying Magecraft helps avoiding friendly fire).


1 - Now, would Hellfire Empowerment not affect Black Tidings, because it doesn't target a specific target?
2 - Is this also true for Canto - Recto?
3 - Is Hellfire Empowerment intended to not work with spells/SUs/SLAs, without a range descriptor?
« Last Edit: August 02, 2014, 06:50:39 AM by Desocupado »

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Re: Black Tidings + Hellfire Empowerment range boost
« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2014, 11:02:30 PM »
1. The key thing to note here is the use of the word "target(s)"; Your Dread Wave is not affected, but Hammerfall can be used from further away. Neither AoE is expanded from Hellfire Empowerment.

2. No range category is given, thus Hellfire Empowerment doesn't do anything to the ranges of these circles.

3. Assuming by "skills" you meant spells/SUs/SLAs, yes, that's intent.

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Re: Black Tidings + Hellfire Empowerment range boost
« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2014, 11:18:39 PM »
3 - Yeah, I meant spells/SUs/SLAs. //fixed

Thanks for the answer.


But that's a bit odd... Hammerfall doesn't have a descriptor for it's range tough is slightly better than a [medium].
While Canto/Recto have a fixed 100ft range, which is just a weak medium (or very atypical [short]).

So the idea is it affects what looks like a range descriptor for a target effect, tough it isn't necessarily so?
« Last Edit: August 01, 2014, 11:24:55 PM by Desocupado »

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Re: Black Tidings + Hellfire Empowerment range boost
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2014, 12:17:38 AM »
Oops, sorry, forgot that Hammerfall DOESN'T have a range category...so sorry, doesn't work for that either!